Saturday, November 21, 2015

Ruvigny Elaboration: Henry VII Descent for George Moore of Appleby Hall (1811-1871)

The Moore family seated at Appleby Hall in the 19th century is thought to have sprung from the Mores of More Hall and Bank Hall in Lancashire, and Sir John Moore (1620-1702), Lord Mayor of London 1681-82, assumed the coat of arms of the Lancashire Mores when he was knighted. But the line can only be traced today to a Charles Moore of Stretton in Derbyshire (grandfather of the Lord Mayor), who purchased the manor of Appleby Parva in 1599. A very comprehensive online account of the Moores of Appleby is that of historian Richard Dunmore, which can be found on the Appleby Magna website. For the next 320 or so years, the Moores continued as owners of the manor of Appleby, and made its manor house Appleby Hall their home.
George Moore of Appleby Hall (1811-1871)

By the mid-18th-century, the Moores were well established in the upper levels of Leicestershire society, and began serving terms as High Sheriff of the county. But it wasn't until the early 19th-century that a member of the family married into the Edward I bloodline: and, rather unusually, the first marriage of the Moores into that bloodline was to a descendant of Henry VII. How, in 1810, old George Moore, squire of Appleby Hall, was able to secure the granddaughter of an earl as a bride for his 31-year-old son and heir, requires a bit of explanation. The key to such a noteworthy marriage was the bride's father, John Drummond, the fifth of his family to be Laird of Megginch Castle in Perthshire. His family had strong ties to Quebec, the province of Lower Canada that Drummond's father lived in from 1764 till his death in 1776. Drummond himself succeeded his father as a member of the Quebec council and deputy commissary and paymaster to the British forces in Canada until 1782, when he seems to have returned to Britain. Four years later in 1786, he succeeded his uncle Adam Drummond to Megginch Castle and the Lennoch estate in Perthshire, as well as to his uncle's Shaftesbury seat in Parliament. Being the new head of the family brought Drummond some social cachet, but he was in constant financial difficulties. He sold the Lennoch estate shortly after inheriting it, and so probably had sufficient cash on hand when he married Lady Susan Fane, the half-sister of the 10th Earl of Westmorland. It was a prestigious match for Drummond, not so much for the Fanes. Lady Susan's father had died some years before, and she was raised by her mother and stepfather Col. John Woodford, which helps to explain why she and her two younger sisters married outside of the peerage. John Drummond only enjoyed four-and-a-half years of marriage to his well-connected wife before she died as a result of giving birth to their second child and only daughter in 1793. Two years later, Drummond made over Megginch Castle to his younger brother Robert, and by 1802 had purchased Snarestone Lodge in Leicestershire from Col. Samuel Madden, an Irish officer prone to heavy gambling, the widower of one of the two co-heiresses to the property.

Once settled into Snarestone Lodge, it wasn't long before Drummond and his daughter came to the notice of the Moores at Appleby Hall, a mere two miles away. As one of the leading gentry families in Leicestershire, Drummond was assured the Moores would provide his daughter a lifestyle similar in rank and grander in scale. And so in 1810, Drummond's 17-year-old daughter Susan was married to George Moore, the 31-year-old heir to the Appleby Hall estate. History tragically repeated itself when the young Mrs. Moore, whose own birth had resulted in the early death of her mother, herself died at age 20 as a result of giving birth to her second child, a daughter who survived and was named Susan Drummond in honour of her just-departed mother.
Moore of Appleby Coat of Arms
[Ermine, three greyhounds courant, in pale,
sa., collared, gu., and on a canton of the third,
a lion, passant, guardant, or

Burke's Landed Gentry stopped tracking the pedigree of the Moores of Appleby Hall at the end of the 19th century. The family's last appearance in that series was in the 9th Edition of 1898. The most comprehensive pedigree of the Moores remains the 1909 Moore of Appleby Hall pedigree in Volume 16 of the Visitation of England and Wales series. Thankfully, historian Richard Dunmore, with the aid of George Moore descendant Peter Moore, have provided a detailed account of the family on the Appleby Magna website, linked to above, which allows us to trace the family down to the present day. My goal is to elaborate on and continue the descent of the family begun by Ruvigny in his 1903 Tudor volume, p. 485.

GEORGE MOORE of Appleby Hall, born 17 September 1811 Snarestone Lodge, Leicestershire, baptized 9 January 1812 St Bartholomew Church, Snarestone, died 26 August 1871 Camisky House, Invernesshire, Scotland, buried 2 September 1871 St Michael & All Angels Church, Appleby Magna, Leicestershire; married 1st 10 June 1833 St Marylebone Parish Church, London, SUSAN INGE, born 15 September 1804 Thorpe Hall, Thorpe Constantine, Staffordshire, baptized 1 November 1804 St Constantine Church, Thorpe Constantine, died s.p. 12 March 1836 Thorpe Hall, buried 18 March 1836 St Constantine Church, Thorpe Constantine, 2nd dau of William Phillips Inge of Thorpe Hall (1773-1838, descended from Henry VII) and Lady Elizabeth Euphemia Stewart (1771-1855, descended from Henry VII); married 2nd 8 January 1839 All Saints Church, Aston-upon-Trent, Derbyshire, ISABEL CLARA HOLDEN, born Aston Hall, Aston-upon-Trent, baptized 28 October 1810 All Saints Church, Aston-upon-Trent, died 17 January 1867 Appleby Hall, buried 23 January 1867 St Michael & All Angels Church, Appleby Magna, dau of Rev. Charles Shuttleworth [later Holden] of Aston Hall (1749-1821, descended from Edward III) and his 3rd wife Rosamund Amelia Deane (1772-1820, descended from Henry IV).
Isabel Clara (née Holden) Moore

Issue of George and Isabel Clara (Holden) Moore:

1) CLARA ELIZABETH MOORE, born 21 February 1841 Aston Hall, Aston-Upon-Trent, baptized 4 May 1841 St Michael & All Angels Church, Appleby Magna, died 11 January 1911 Dillington House, Whitelackington, Somersetshire; married 7 August 1861 St Michael & All Angels Church, Appleby Magna, VAUGHAN HANNING VAUGHAN-LEE of Dillington House, born 25 February 1836 Westminster, London, died 7 July 1882 Dillington House, buried 12 July 1882 St Mary Church, Whitelackington, M.P. West Somerset 1874-1882, son and heir of John Lee Hanning [later Lee] of Orleigh Court, Devon (1802-1874) and his 1st wife Jessie Vaughan (d. 1836) [*1], and had issue.

2) GEORGE JOHN MOORE of Appleby Hall, born 19 December 1842 Aston Hall, baptized 7 February 1843 St Michael & All Angels Church, Appleby Magna, died 1 October 1916 Appleby Hall, Justice of the Peace and Deputy Lieutenant Leicestershire; married 6 October 1874 St Paul's Church, Knightsbridge, London, LOUISA KEKEWICH, born 3 March 1846 Peamore House, Exminster, Devon, died 12 October 1921 Seaton Burn, Sidmouth, Devon, dau of Samuel Trehawke Kekewich of Peamore House (1796-1873, descended from Edward I) and his 2nd wife Louisa Buck (1811-1880, descended from Edward IV), and had issue.

3) SUSAN MOORE, born Appleby Hall, baptized 30 April 1845 St Michael & All Angels Church, Appleby Magna, died 8 April 1906 Hyde Park, London; married 26 November 1863 St Michael & All Angels Church, Appleby Magna, WALTER MAINWARING COYNEY of Weston Coyney Hall, Caverswall, Staffordshire, born 18 September 1839 Weston Coyney Hall, baptized 19 September 1839 St Peter Church, Caverswall, died 6 January 1884 Weston Coyney Hall, Justice of the Peace and Deputy Lieutenant Staffordshire, son and heir of Charles Coyney of Weston Coyney Hall (1801-1883) and his 1st wife Sophia Henrietta Mainwaring (1813-1871, descended from Edward III), and had issue.

4) Rev. CHARLES THOMAS MOORE of Appleby Magna, born 3 February 1847 Appleby Hall, baptized 15 April 1847 St Michael & All Angels Church, Appleby Magna, died 21 July 1924 Hill House, Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, Rector of Appleby 1877-1922; married 7 January 1880 All Saints Church, Kirkby Mallory, Leicestershire, MABEL CHARLOTTE BYRON, born 20 April 1853 Marylebone, London, died 19 December 1926 Lavender Cottage, Appleby Magna, dau of Hon. and Rev. Augustus Byron of Kirkby Mallory (1828-1907, descended from Edward III) and Frederica McMahon (1829-1903, descended from Edward III), and had issue.
Appleby Hall in 1912. It was demolished in the 1920s.
5) ROSAMOND MOORE, born Appleby Hall, baptized 8 July 1849 St Michael & All Angels Church, Appleby Magna, died unmarried 15 March 1928 Earl's Court, London - the last surviving child of George Moore.

6) KATHARINE MOORE, born 24 October 1851 Appleby Hall, baptized 27 January 1852 St Michael & All Angels Church, Appleby Magna, died s.p. 18 August 1920 Earl's Court, London; married 21 August 1879 St John's Church, Paddington, London, WILLIAM WRIOTHESLEY MILLS WINGFIELD of Uxbridge, Middlesex, born 17 January 1841 Gulval, Cornwall, baptized 14 February 1841 St Wolvela Church, Gulval, died s.p. 18 March 1903 Tower House, Uxbridge, buried 23 March 1903 St Lawrence Church, Cowley, Middlesex, only son of Rev. William Wriothesley Wingfield of Gulval (1814-1912, descended from Edward IV) and Elizabeth Frances Anne Fortescue (1816-1899, descended from Edward I).

[*1] Vaughan Hanning Lee [later Vaughan-Lee] is an example of an Englishman of the gentry class in the Victorian era whose four grandparents - William Hanning of Dillington House, Harriet Lee of Pinhoe, Devon, John Edwards Vaughan of Rheola, Glamorganshire, and Sarah Barwis of London - do not appear to have any traceable lines back to Edward I.

George Moore of Appleby Hall has a 13-generation descent from Henry VII, as follows.

Henry VII had a dau:
Princess Mary Tudor -
see Generation 1
1) Princess MARY TUDOR, b. 18 Mar. 1496 Richmond Palace, Surrey; d. 25 June 1533 Westhorpe Hall, Suffolk, bur. 22 July 1533 Bury St Edmunds Abbey, Suffolk; married 2ndly 31 March 1515 Paris, France, CHARLES BRANDON, 1st Duke of Suffolk, b. c.1483; d. 22 Aug. 1545 Guildford, Surrey, bur. 9 Sept. 1545 St George Chapel, Windsor Castle, Berkshire, yr son of Sir William Brandon (c.1453-1485, descended from Edward I) & Elizabeth Bruyn (d. 1494), and had
2) Lady ELEANOR BRANDON, b. 1519; d. 27 Sept. 1547 Brougham Castle, Westmorland, bur. Holy Trinity Church, Skipton, Yorkshire; married June 1535 Suffolk House, Southwark, HENRY CLIFFORD, 2nd Earl of Cumberland, b. c.1517; d. 2 Jan. 1570 Brougham Castle, bur. Holy Trinity Church, Skipton, elder son of Henry Clifford, 1st Earl of Cumberland (1493-1542, descended from Edward III) & Lady Margaret Percy (c.1495-1540, descended from Edward III), and had
3) Lady MARGARET CLIFFORD, b. 1540; d. 29 Sept. 1596 Cleveland Row, Westminster, bur. 22 Oct. 1596 Westminster Abbey; married 7 Feb. 1555 Whitehall Palace, Westminster, HENRY STANLEY, 4th Earl of Derby, b. Sept. 1531 Lathom Castle, Lancashire, bap. there 4 Oct. 1531; d. there 25 Sept. 1593, bur. 4 Dec. 1593 St Peter & St Paul Church, Ormskirk, Lancashire, son of Edward Stanley, 3rd Earl of Derby (1509-1572, descended from Edward III) & his 2nd wife Lady Dorothy Howard (c.1514-c.1547, descended from Edward I), and had
4) WILLIAM STANLEY, 6th Earl of Derby, b. Derby House, Cannon Row, Westminster, bap. 20 July 1561 St Martin Ludgate, London; d. 29 Sept. 1642 Chester, Cheshire, bur. there 1 Oct. 1642; married 26 Jan. 1595 Greenwich Palace, Kent, Lady ELIZABETH DE VERE, b. 2 July 1575 Theobalds House, Hertfordshire, bap. there 10 July 1575; d. 10 Mar. 1627 Richmond Palace, Surrey, bur. 11 Mar. 1627 Westminster Abbey, dau of Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford (1550-1604, descended from Edward I) & his 1st wife Anne Cecil (1556-1588), and had
5) JAMES STANLEY, 7th Earl of Derby, b. 31 Jan. 1606 Knowsley Hall, Lancashire; d. 15 Oct. 1651 Bolton, Lancashire, bur. St Peter & St Paul Church, Ormskirk; married 26 June 1626 The Hague, Holland, CHARLOTTE DE LA TREMOILLE, b. Dec. 1599 Thouars Castle, Poitou, France; d. 22 Mar. 1664 Knowsley Hall, bur. 6 Apr. 1644 St Peter & St Paul Church, Ormskirk, dau of Claude de La Trémoille, 2nd Duke of Thouars (1566-1604, descended from Frederick IV of Naples) & Countess Charlotte Brabatine of Nassau (1580-1631), and had
1st Duke of Atholl -
see Generation 7
6) Lady AMELIA ANN SOPHIA STANLEY, b. 17 July 1633; d. 22 Feb. 1703, bur. Dunkeld Cathedral, Perthshire, Scotland; married 5 May 1659, JOHN MURRAY, 1st Marquess of Atholl, b. 2 May 1631; d. 6 May 1703, bur. 17 May 1703 Dunkeld Cathedral, son of John Murray, 1st Earl of Atholl (d. 1642, descended from James IV) & Jean Campbell (descended from Edward III), and had
7) JOHN MURRAY, 1st Duke of Atholl, b. 24 Feb. 1660 Knowsley Hall; d. 14 Nov. 1724 Huntingtower, Perthshire, bur. 26 Nov. 1724 Dunkeld Cathedral; married 1st 26 May 1683, Lady KATHERINE HAMILTON, b. Hamilton Palace, Lanarkshire, bap. 24 Oct. 1662 Collegiate Church, Hamilton; d. 11 Dec. 1707, bur. 17 Jan. 1708 Collegiate Church, Hamilton, dau of William Douglas [later Hamilton], 3rd Duke of Hamilton (1634-1694, descended from James IV) & Anne, 3rd Duchess of Hamilton (1632-1716, descended from James IV), and had
8) Lady ANNA SUSAN MURRAY, b. 15 Apr. 1699; d. 22 June 1725; married 25 Apr. 1716, WILLIAM GORDON, 2nd Earl of Aberdeen, bap. 22 Dec. 1679; d. 30 Mar. 1745 Edinburgh, son of George Gordon, 1st Earl of Aberdeen (1637-1720, descended from James I of Scotland) & Anne Lockhart (d. 1707), and had
9) Lady KATHARINE GORDON, b. 20 Oct. 1718; d. 10 Dec. 1779 London, bur. Elgin Cathedral, Moray, Scotland; married 1st [*2] 3 Sept. 1741 Dunkeld Cathedral, COSMO GEORGE GORDON, 3rd Duke of Gordon, b. 27 Apr. 1720; d. 5 Aug. 1752, son of Alexander Gordon, 2nd Duke of Gordon (c.1678-1728, descended from James IV) & Lady Henrietta Mordaunt (1682-1760, descended from Edward III), and had
9th Earl of Westmorland -
see Generation 10
10) Lady SUSAN GORDON, b. 1746; d. 11 Dec. 1814 Berkeley Square, London, bur. 20 Dec. 1814 St Leonard Church, Apethorpe, Northamptonshire; married 1st [*3] 28 May 1767 Harley Street, Marylebone, London, JOHN FANE, 9th Earl of Westmorland, b. 5 May 1728 Bristol, Gloucestershire, bap. 22 May 1728 St Werburgh Church, Bristol; d. 26 Apr. 1774, bur. 3 May 1774 Holy Trinity Church, Westbury-on-Trym, Gloucestershire, son of Thomas Fane, 8th Earl of Westmorland (1701-1771, descended from Edward III) & Elizabeth Swymmer (1698-1782), and had
11) Lady SUSAN FANE, b. 3 Oct. 1768 Charminster, Dorset, bap. 24 Oct. 1768 St Mary Church, Charminster; d. 8 Mar. 1793; married 4 Aug. 1788 St Marylebone Parish Church, London, JOHN DRUMMOND, 5th Laird of Megginch Castle, Perthshire, b. 1754; d. 13 May 1835 Boyce Court, Dymock, Gloucestershire, bur. 20 May 1835 St Mary Church, Dymock, eldest son of Colin Drummond of Quebec (1722-1776, descended from James II of Scotland) & Katherine Oliphant (d. 1810), and had
12) SUSAN DRUMMOND, b. Mar. 1793; d. 7 Apr. 1813 Snarestone Lodge, Leicestershire; married 1810, GEORGE MOORE of Appleby Hall, b. 31 Dec. 1778 White House, Appleby Magna, Leicestershire, bap. 2 Jan. 1779 St Michael & All Angels Church, Appleby Magna; d. 23 June 1827, High Sheriff Leicestershire 1821, son of George Moore of Appleby Hall (1743-1813) & Elizabeth Darker (1754-1834), and had [*4]
13) GEORGE MOORE of Appleby Hall (1811-1871) - see details above

Katharine, Duchess of Gordon -
see Generation 9
[*2] Katharine, Duchess of Gordon, married 2nd 25 March 1756, as his 1st wife, STAATS LONG MORRIS of Berrymead Lodge, Acton, Middlesex, b. 27 Aug. 1728 Morrisania, New York; d. 2 Apr. 1800 Berrymead Lodge, bur. 7 Apr. 1800 Westminster Abbey (said to be the only American bur. there), Governor of Quebec 1797-1800, son of Col. Lewis Morris of Morrisania (1698-1762) & Katrintje Staats (1697-1732), but had no further issue.

[*3] Susan, Countess of Westmorland, married 2nd 28 December 1778, Col. JOHN WOODFORD, bap. 1 June 1741 St Mary Church, Southampton; d. Edinburgh, bur. 17 Apr. 1800 Chapel Royal, Holyrood Palace, Edinburgh, yr son of Matthew Woodford of Southampton & Mary Brideoake, and further issue, two sons, Sir Alexander George Woodford (1782-1870) and Sir John George Woodford (1785-1879).

[*4] The only other child of Susan (née Drummond) Moore was a daughter, Susan Drummond Moore, b. 7 Apr. 1813 Snarestone Lodge, bap. same day St Bartholomew Church, Snarestone; d. 10 Sept. 1882 Bayswater, London, bur. 14 Sept. 1882 All Saints Church, Aston-upon-Trent; married 22 Nov. 1832 St Bartholomew Church, Snarestone, EDWARD ANTHONY HOLDEN of Aston Hall, b. 2 Aug. 1805 Aston Hall, bap. 3 Aug. 1805 All Saints Church, Aston-upon-Trent; d. 28 Aug. 1877 Aston Hall, bur. 1 Sept. 1877 All Saints Church, Aston-upon-Trent, elder brother of Isabel Clara Holden, the 2nd wife of her brother George Moore of Appleby Hall, and had issue.

Cheers,                           -----Brad

Friday, November 13, 2015

Edward III Descents for Sir Walter Wrottesley, 3rd Bt (1659-1712)

Wrottesley Coat of Arms
The Wrottesley family, which can trace its line back to the Domesday Book, was seated at Wrottesley Hall, in the parish of Tettenhall, Staffordshire, for over 700 years, from the time of William de Verdon (d. 1242), who was the first to assume the surname Wrottesley, until 1963, when Wrottesley Hall was sold by the the 5th Baron Wrottesley (1918-1977).

The family first married into the Edward I bloodline in the late 15th-century, when Sir Walter Wrottesley (c.1430-1473), a confirmed Yorkist, and one of the leading administrators in the retinue of Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick 'the Kingmaker', arranged the marriage of his eldest son and heir Richard Wrottesley to Dorothy, the second daughter of Sir Edmund Sutton of Aston Le Walls, heir to the barony of Dudley, and his first child from his second marriage to the widowed Dame Maud (née Clifford) Harrington of Hornby Castle. The marriage brought the Wrottesleys no lands, but much prestige, for the Suttons of Dudley Castle were one of the most families in Staffordshire, and Richard Wrottesley's father-in-law Sir Edmund was high in favour at the court of King Edward IV, and served as deputy lieutenant of Ireland under his brother-in-law John Tiptoft, 1st Earl of Worcester (Sir Edmund's first wife had been Worcester's sister).
Wrottesley Hall, Tettenhall, Staffordshire
Baronets since 1641, and Barons since 1838, the family is widely covered in the peerage works, but the most comprehensive account to-date remains Major-General Hon. George Wrottesley's 1903 book History of the Family of Wrottesley of Wrottesley, co. Stafford. With the marriage of Sir Hugh Wrottesley, great-grandson of Richard and Dorothy (Dudley) Wrottesley, to Margaret Devereux, the family fell under the scope of Ruvigny's Plantagenet Roll series, and he covers them in Table XXX (p. 32) of his 1908 Essex volume (see Line A below for the descent).

Below are the nine lines of descent for Sir Walter Wrottesley, 3rd Baronet, born 1659, died at Somerford Hall, Brewood, Staffordshire, buried 4 April 1712 St Mary & St Chad Church, Brewood.
Richard Wrottesley and Dorothy Dudley
Monument in Tettenhall Church, Staffordshire
- see Generation B7

Edward III had four sons A1, C1, D1 and E1 (see below)
A1) Lionel of Antwerp, 1st Duke of Clarence (1338-1368) m. 1) Lady Elizabeth de Burgh (1332-1363, descended from Edward I), and had
A2) Lady Philippa Plantagenet of Clarence (1355-1377) m. Edmund Mortimer, 3rd Earl of March (1352-1381), and had a son A3 and a dau B3 (see below)
A3) Roger Mortimer, 4th Earl of March (1374-1398) m. Lady Alianore Holland (1370-1405, descended from Edward I), and had
A4) Lady Anne Mortimer (1388-1411) m. Richard of York, 3rd Earl of Cambridge (see C2 below), and had
A5) Lady Isabel Plantagenet (1409-1484) m. 2) Henry Bourchier, 1st Earl of Essex (see D3 below), and had
A6) William, Lord Bourchier (c.1428-1477) m. 2) Lady Anne Woodville (c.1448-1489), and had
A7) Cecily Bourchier (c.1473-1493) m. John Devereux, 2nd Lord Ferrers of Chartley (1464-1501, descended from Edward I), and had
A8) Walter Devereux, 1st Viscount Hereford (c.1491-1558) m. 2) Margaret Garneys (d. 1599), and had
A9) Sir Edward Devereux, 1st Baronet of Castle Bromwich (c.1550-1622) m. Katherine Arden (see G9 below), and had
A10) Margaret Devereux (c.1578-1615) m. Sir Hugh Wrottesley of Wrottesley Hall (see B11 below), and had
A11) Sir Walter Wrottesley, 1st Baronet of Wrottesley (1606-1659) m. Mary Grey (see H10 below), and had
A12) Sir Walter Wrottesley, 2nd Baronet of Wrottesley (c.1631-1686) m. Margaret Wolryche (c.1633-1673, descended from Edward I), and had
A13) Sir Walter Wrottesley, 3rd Baronet of Wrottesley (1659-1712)

B3) Lady Elizabeth Mortimer (1371-1417) m. 1) Sir Henry 'Hotspur' Percy (1364-1403), and had
B4) Lady Elizabeth Percy (c.1395-1437) m. 1) John, 7th Lord Clifford (1388-1422, descended from Edward I), and had
B5) Thomas, 8th Lord Clifford (1414-1455) m. Joan Dacre (c.1417-c.1452, descended from Edward I), and had
B6) Maud Clifford (b. c.1436) m. 2) Sir Edmund Sutton, Heir of Dudley Castle (c.1430-1482), and had
B7) Dorothy Dudley (c.1465-1517) m. Richard Wrottesley of Wrottesley Hall (1457-1521), and had
B8) Walter Wrottesley of Wrottesley Hall (c.1485-1563) m. Isabel Harcourt, and had
B9) John Wrottesley of Wrottesley Hall (c.1520-1578) m. Elizabeth Astley (see E7 below), and had
B10) Walter Wrottesley of Wrottesley Hall (c.1546-1630) m. 1) Mary Lee (d. by 1595), and had
B11) Sir Hugh Wrottesley of Wrottesley Hall (c.1570-1633) m. 1) Margaret Devereux (see A10 above)
3rd Earl of Cambridge -
see Generation C2

C1) Edmund of Langley, 1st Duke of York (1341-1403) m. 1) Isabel of Castile (1355-1392), and had
C2) Richard Plantagenet, 3rd Earl of Cambridge (1385-1415) m. 1) Lady Anne Mortimer (see A4 above)

D1) Thomas of Woodstock, 1st Duke of Gloucester (1355-1397) m. Lady Eleanor de Bohun (1366-1399, descended from Edward I), and had
D2) Anne Plantagenet, Countess of Buckingham (1383-1438) m. 3) William Bourchier, 1st Count of Eu (c.1374-1420), and had
D3) Henry Bourchier, 1st Earl of Essex (1404-1483) m. Lady Isabel Plantagenet (see A5 above)

E1) John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster (1340-1399) m. 3) Katherine Roet (c.1350-1403), and had a son E2 and a dau F2 (see below)
E2) John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset (1373-1410) m. Lady Margaret Holland (1383-1439, descended from Edward I), and had
E3) Edmund Beaufort, 2nd Duke of Somerset (1406-1455) m. Lady Eleanor Beauchamp (1408-1467, descended from Edward I), and had
E4) Lady Anne Beaufort (1443-bef.1492) m. William Paston of London (1434-1496), and had
E5) Agnes Paston (c.1476-bef.1514) m. Sir Gilbert Talbot of Grafton (see F6 below), and had
E6) Mary Talbot m. Thomas Astley of Patshull Hall (d. 1558), and had
E7) Elizabeth Astley (c.1525-1592) m. John Wrottesley of Wrottesley Hall (see B9 above)

F2) Lady Joan Beaufort (c.1377-1440) m. twice, and had a dau F3 and a son G3 (see below)
F3) Elizabeth Ferrers, by 1st husband (1393-1434) m. John, 4th Lord Greystoke (c.1390-1436), and had
F4) Ralph, 5th Lord Greystoke (1414-1487) m. 1) Elizabeth Fitzhugh (c.1420-1469), and had
F5) Elizabeth Greystoke (c.1438-aft.1483) m. 2) Sir Gilbert Talbot of Grafton (1452-1516, descended from Edward I), and had
F6) Sir Gilbert Talbot of Grafton (c.1477-1542) m. 1) Agnes Paston (see E5 above)

G3) Richard Neville, 1st Earl of Salisbury, by 2nd husband (c.1398-1460) m. Lady Alice Montagu (1406-1462, descended from Edward I), and had 2 daus G4 & H4, and a son I4 (see below)
G4) Lady Alice Neville (c.1434-aft.1503) m. Henry, 6th Lord Fitzhugh (1429-1472), and had
G5) Elizabeth Fitzhugh (1462-bef.1507) m. 2) Nicholas, 1st Baron Vaux of Harrowden (c.1460-1523, descended from Edward I), and had
Dame Katherine (née Vaux)
- see
Generation G6
G6) Katherine Vaux (c.1490-c.1571) m. Sir George Throckmorton of Coughton Court (by 1489-1552), and had
G7) Sir Robert Throckmorton of Coughton Court (by1513-1581) m. 1) Muriel Berkeley (c.1511-by 1542, descended from Edward I), and had
G8) Mary Throckmorton (c.1536-1603) m. Edward Arden of Park Hall (1533-1583), and had
G9) Katherine Arden (c.1556-1627) m. Sir Edward Devereux, 1st Baronet of Castle Bromwich (see A9 above)

H4) Lady Katherine Neville (c.1442-1504) m. 1) William Bonville, 6th Lord Harington (1442-1460, descended from Edward I), and had
H5) Cecily Bonville (1460-1529) m. 1) Thomas Grey, 1st Marquess of Dorset (c.1456-1501, descended from Edward I), and had
H6) Thomas Grey, 2nd Marquess of Dorset (1477-1530) m. 2) Margaret Wotton (d. 1541), and had
H7) Lord John Grey of Pirgo Palace (c.1524-1564) m. Mary Browne (see I7 below), and had
H8) Henry, 1st Baron Grey of Groby (1547-1614) m. Anne Windsor (d. 1605, descended from Edward I), and had
H9) Ambrose Grey of Enville Hall (d. 1636) m. 1) Margaret Prince (descended from Edward I), and had
H10) Mary Grey (c.1608-aft.1661) m. Sir Walter Wrottesley, 1st Baronet of Wrottesley (see A11 above)

I4) John Neville, Marquess Montagu (c.1431-1471) m. Isabel Ingaldesthorpe (1441-1476, descended from Edward I), and had
I5) Lady Lucy Neville (1468-1534) m. 2) Sir Anthony Browne of Calais (1443-1506, descended from Edward I), and had
I6) Sir Anthony Browne of Cowdray Park (c.1500-1548) m. Alice Gage (d. 1540), and had
I7) Mary Browne (c.1527-1617) m. 1) Lord John Grey of Pirgo Palace (see H7 above)

This concludes the series of posts on the royal descents of Susan Inge, first wife of George Moore of Appleby Hall.

Cheers,                                 -----Brad

Thursday, November 12, 2015

Edward III Descents for Eleanor (née Archer), Dame Wrottesley (1660-1694)

Archer of Coopersale Coat of Arms
Ermine, a cross sable
Returning to the ancestry of Susan (née Inge), first wife of George Moore of Appleby Hall, there remain Edward III lines of descent to explore for Sir John Wrottesley, 4th Baronet. First up are the three lines of descent he has through his mother Eleanor Archer, which are in addition to her line of descent from Henry IV, already posted.

The Archers of Coopersale House in the parish of Theydon Garnon, were a minor Essex gentry family who claimed descent from one Simon de Boys, a soldier at the Battle of Agincourt (which just celebrated its 600th anniversary this past October 25th). As the family legend goes, de Boys, who bragged that it was the skill of archers like himself that helped England win the battle, found himself in a shooting match against King Henry V. When de Boys won the match, the King commanded that he should assume the surname of Archer in lieu of de Boys.

By far the most significant member of the family to emerge was the judge (eventually knighted), Sir John Archer. Born in 1598, he benefitted from the connections of his mother Anne (née Crouch) Archer, one of the three daughters and co-heirs of influential London haberdasher Giles Crouch of Cornhill (d. 1601) - see the Crouch pedigree published in the Harleian Society's first volume of The Visitation of London, Anno Domini 1633, 1634, and 1635. Archer entered the law profession, and was called to the bar at Gray's Inn in 1627. But it was his lands that were the main draw in allowing him to make a good first marriage. Per his ODNB entry, "Archer had inherited a landed estate in Essex and Lincolnshire of sufficient substance to enable him to marry, in 1634, Mary [sic] Savile (b. 1612), a daughter of Sir George Savile of Thornhill, Yorkshire; their marriage was ended by her death in 1637."
Coopersale House, Essex, in 1958
Archer's first wife Margaret (not Mary) Savile was born at Thornhill Hall, Yorkshire, and baptized at St Michael Church, Thornhill on 23 August 1612. She was daughter of Sir George Savile, 1st Baronet of Thornhill (1551-1622) and his 2nd wife Elizabeth Ayscough (d. 1626, descended from Edward I). Archer truly mourned her early death at age 25, and it was eighteen years before he married again, taking as his second wife in 1655 (during the Protectorate) Eleanor Curzon. Archer had presbyterian sympathies, as did his reclusive new father-in-law Sir John Curzon, 1st Baronet. The parish registers of Kedleston Church have not yet been made available online, so I cannot determine when Eleanor was born or baptized, but there is a fine representation of her, and all of her siblings, on the monument of their parents in All Saints Church, Kedleston. By his second wife, Archer had two children, a son and a daughter. He apparently had a good second marriage, despite the large difference in their ages (Archer was at least 30 years older than Eleanor). In his will made in March 1679, he expressed ‘great affection to my deare and loving wife’, and left her "jewels, plate, hangings, furniture, coaches, and £3000 in cash, with a life interest in his Essex and Suffolk lands" ODNB].
Dame Eleanor (née Curzon) Archer,
from her parents' monument in Kedleston Church

The only son, John Archer (c.1661-1706), married 1680 Mary Jones (d. 1702), heiress of Welford Park, Berkshire, which he made his chief seat, and had an only child, Eleanor Archer (d.s.p. 1702), 1st wife of the architect Thomas Archer of Hale House, Hampshire (1668-1743, descended from Edward I), who was of the Archer family of Umberslade Hall, completely un-related to the Archers of Coopersale House. After his daughter's death without children, John Archer stipulated that Coopersale House, Welford Park, and his other properties should pass to William Eyre, husband of his niece Eleanor Wrottesley, as long as William changed his surname from Eyre to Archer, which he readily did. Eleanor (née Wrottesley) Archer, died without issue, and it was her husband's second wife who gave him heirs. William Archer (formerly Eyre) was allowed, though, to keep the original Archer inheritance, so, ironically, the subsequent Archers of Welford Park and Coopersale House do not descend at all from Sir John Archer (1598-1682) and Eleanor Curzon. See William Berry's 1838 Archer pedigree, published by the Harleian Society in the second volume of The Visitations of Essex by Hawley, 1552; Hervey, 1558; Cooke, 1570.

Through her mother Dame Eleanor (née Curzon) Archer, Eleanor Archer, the first wife of Sir Walter Wrottesley, 3rd Baronet, has the following three lines of descent from Edward III.

Edward III had two sons A1 & C1 (see below)
A1) John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster (1340-1399) m. 3) Katherine Roet (c.1350-1403), and had
A2) Lady Joan Beaufort (1377-1440) m. twice, and had a dau A3 and a son B3 (see below)
A3) Mary Ferrers, by 1st husband (1394-1458) m. Sir Ralph Neville of Oversley (c.1395-1458, descended from Edward I), and had
A4) John Neville of Oversley (c.1415-1482) m. 1) Elizabeth Newmarch (b. c.1415), and had
A5) Joan Neville (c.1434-bef.1482) m. 1) Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe Hall (c.1428-1463), and had
A6) Agnes Gascoigne (c.1462-1504) m. Sir Robert Plumpton of Plumpton Hall (1453-1525), and had
Pole of Radbourne Coat of Arms,
from a window in Kedleston Church
A7) Anne Plumpton (b. c.1483) m. German Pole of Radbourne Hall (1482-1552), and had
A8) Eleanor Pole m. Richard Curzon of Kedleston Hall (1505-1546), and had
A9) Francis Curzon of Kedleston Hall (by 1523-1592) m. Eleanor Vernon (see C7 below), and had
A10) John Curzon of Kedleston Hall (1552-1632) m. Millicent Sacheverell (c.1573-1619), and had
A11) Sir John Curzon, 1st Baronet of Kedleston (1598-1686) m. Patience Crewe (see B10 below), and had
A12) Eleanor Curzon (c.1535-aft.1682) m. Sir John Archer of Coopersale House (1598-1682), and had
A13) Eleanor Archer (1660-1694), 1st wife of Sir Walter Wrottesley, 3rd Baronet of Wrottesley

B3) Richard Neville, 1st Earl of Salisbury (c.1398-1460) m. Lady Alice Montagu (1406-1462, descended from Edward I), and had
Sir Thomas Crewe -
see Generation B9
B4) Lady Alice Neville (c.1434-aft.1503) m. Henry, 6th Lord Fitzhugh (1429-1472), and had
B5) Elizabeth Fitzhugh (1462-bef.1507) m. 1) Sir William Parr of Kendal (1434-1483), and had
B6) Anne Parr (c.1482-aft.1513) m. Sir Thomas Cheney of Irthlingborough (by 1449-1514), and had
B7) Elizabeth Cheney (c.1504-1556) m. Thomas, 2nd Baron Vaux of Harrowden (1509-1556, descended from Edward I), and had
B8) Anne Vaux (c.1542-1619) m. Reginald Bray of Steane Park (c.1539-1583), and had
B9) Temperance Bray (1580-1619) m. Sir Thomas Crewe of Steane Park (1566-1634), and had
B10) Patience Crewe (c.1602-1642) [*1] m. Sir John Curzon, 1st Baronet of Kedleston (see A11 above)

C1) Edmund of Langley, 1st Duke of York (1341-1402) m. 1) Infanta Isabel of Castile (1355-1392), and had
From a window in Kedleston Church
C2) Lady Constance Plantagenet of York (c.1375-1416) = Edmund Holland, 4th Earl of Kent (1382-1408, descended from Edward I), and had
C3) Eleanor Holland, illegit. (b. c.1406) m. James Tuchet, 5th Lord Audley (c.1398-1459), and had
C4) Margaret Audley (c.1441-1481) m. 1) Richard, 1st Lord Gray of Powis (1436-1466, descended from Henry IV), and hadC5) Elizabeth Gray (c.1462-bef.1493) m. John Ludlow, Heir of Stokesay Castle (1459-bef.1493), and had
C6) Anne Ludlow (b. 1482) m. Thomas Vernon of Stokesay Castle (c.1482-1562, descended from Edward I), and had
C7) Eleanor Vernon m. Francis Curzon of Kedleston Hall (see A9 above)

[*1] For those who find mtDNA as interesting as I do, thru Line B above, Eleanor (née Archer), Dame Wrottesley can be traced back thirteen generations, in an unbroken female line, to Maud Chaworth (1282-1322), wife of Henry Plantagenet, 3rd Earl of Lancaster.

My next post will wrap up the ancestry of Susan (née Inge) Moore, and cover the Edward III descents for Sir John Wrottesley, 4th Baronet, thru his father the 3rd Baronet.

Cheers,                                                --------Brad

Wednesday, November 11, 2015

Edward I Descents for Erasmus Paston (by 1508-1540)

Erasmus Paston, based on his
monument brass
Before I leave the Paston family, I want to highlight the two lines of descent from Edward I for Erasmus Paston, as both of the lines have only come to light in the last fifteen years, and neither is well-distributed yet among genealogy works. The first line (Line A below) is the result of research by Rosie Bevan and John P. Ravilious. They are both participants in the SocGenMed newsgroup, and are two of the most expert genealogists today working on medieval British families. Rosie first made SocGenMed aware of the Edward I descent of Margery Brewse, wife of Sir John Paston, in a post in May 2002. The other line of descent (Line B below) was researched by John Ravilious in the period 2001-2005. As the first six generations of Line A and the first three generations of Line B are well-covered by Complete Peerage, they are only presented in bare outline form.

Edward I had a dau
A1) Princess Joan 'of Acre' (1272-1307) m. twice and had a dau A2 and a son B2 (see below)
A2) Lady Eleanor de Clare, by 1st husband (1292-1337) m. 1) Hugh, 2nd Lord Despenser (c.1289-1326), and had
A3) Sir Edward Despenser of Essendine (c.1311-1342) m. Anne Ferrers (c.1315-1367), and had
A4) Edward, 4th Lord Despenser (1336-1375) m. Elizabeth Burghersh (1342-1409), and had
A5) Anne Despenser (c.1363-1426) m. 1) Sir Hugh Hastings of Elsing (by 1355-1386), and had
A6) Sir Edward Hastings of Elsing (1382-1438) m. 1) Muriel Dinham (see B5 below), and had
A7) MARGARET HASTINGS, born by 1414 (assuming she was no younger than age 18 at her marriage), died unknown; m. (settlement 1 June) 1432, GILBERT DEBENHAM of Little Wenham Hall, Suffolk, born c.1405; died 10 May 1481, M.P. Suffolk 1427, 1432, 1437, 1442, 1449, 1453-4, son and heir of Gilbert Debenham of Little Wenham Hall (d. 1449?) and Elizabeth Holbrook [*1], and had
4th Lord Despenser -
see Generation A4
A8) ELIZABETH DEBENHAM, born c.1436 (assuming she was about age 20 at her marriage), will dated 5 December 1502, will proved 9 February 1503, buried Chapel of the Field, Norwich; married by 1456, as his 2nd wife, Sir THOMAS BREWSE of Stinton Hall, Norfolk and of Little Wenham Hall, born c.1406, died 17 June 1482, buried Woodbridge Priory, Suffolk, M.P. Suffolk 1435, 1445-6, 1467-8, son and heir of Sir Robert Brewse of Stinton Hall (d. 1424) and Ela Stapleton (d. 1456) [*2], and had
A9) MARGERY BREWSE, born c.1457 (assuming she was about age 20 at her marriage), died 1495, buried Carmelite (White) Friars Priory, Norwich, Norfolk; married July 1477, as his 1st wife, Sir JOHN PASTON of Paston Hall, Norfolk, born 1444, died 28 August 1504, buried Carmelite Friary, Norwich, M.P. Norwich 1485-86, son and heir of John Paston of Paston Hall (1421-1466) and Margaret Mautby (c.1420-1484) [*3], and had
A10) Sir WILLIAM PASTON of Paston Hall, born c.1479, died 20 September 1554 Paston Hall, buried 26 September 1554 St Margaret Church, Paston; married 1489 BRIDGET HEYDON, born about 1480, buried 17 January 1554 St Margaret Church, Paston, dau of Sir Henry Heydon of Baconsthorpe Castle (d. 1504) and Anne Boleyn (d. 1510) [*4], and had
A11) ERASMUS PASTON, Heir of Paston Hall, born by 1508, buried 6 November 1540 St Margaret Church, Paston.

Debenham Coat of Arms
[*1] Rosie Bevan, in her SocGenMed post of May 2002, had Margaret as the daughter of Sir Edward Hastings by his second wife Margery Clifton (d. 1456). But per his entry in Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Sir Edward Hastings and his first wife Muriel Dinham "had a son John and other children." Sir Edward's son John Hastings was born in 1412, and given her date of marriage, Margaret was close in age to her brother. The genealogy of the Debenhams is easily confused by the existence of five successive Gilbert Debenhams. What seems to have happened is that Walter Copinger in his account of Wenham Parva in The Manors of Suffolk Volume 6 (1905), has reversed the order of the wives of two successive Gilbert Debenhams: he made Margaret Hastings the wife of Gilbert III Debenham (d. 1449?) and Elizabeth Holbrook the wife of Gilbert IV Debenham (d. 1481), when it should be the reverse. Winifred I. Haward wrote an article about Gilbert V Debenham (d. 1500) entitled 'Gilbert Debenham: A Medieval Rascal in Real Life', History Volume 13 (1929). She has this to say about Gilbert III and his son Gilbert IV, "It is possible that Gilbert the father lived until 1449 ... I am inclined to think that the father died some time before. Copinger gives no reference, and no such date is given in Add. 19126. The exploits performed before 1449 are so much like the later ones that it is difficult to believe that they were not those of the same person ... and until that date we cannot be sure which of the two is referred to". She does follow Copinger in making Elizabeth Holbrook the wife of Gilbert IV Debenham (d. 1481). Josiah C. Wedgwood, in his entries for Gilbert IV Debenham (d. 1481) and Gilbert V Debenham (d. 1500), in his 1936 History of Parliament, also follows Copinger and Haward, and makes Margaret Hastings the wife of Gilbert III and mother of Gilbert IV, and Elizabeth Holbrook the wife of Gilbert IV and mother of Gilbert V. This, however, is impossible chronologically. We know from the Paston Letters (see footnote 2 below) that both Gilbert V Debenham and his sister Elizabeth were nephew and niece of John Hastings of Gressenhall (1412-1477). There is no room chronologically for an extra generation between Margaret Hastings and the two Debenham siblings - she had to have been their mother, not their grandmother. Moving Elizabeth Holbrook back a generation as the wife of Gilbert III Debenham (d. 1449?), and mother of Gilbert IV (d. 1481) also makes more sense given that the Holbrooks were a fourteenth-century, not a fifteenth-century family, as historian James Ross mentions on pp. 54-55 of his 2011 book John de Vere, Thirteenth Earl of Oxford (1442-1513): 'the Foremost Man of the Kingdom'. It seems that at least two Suffolk manors, Little Wenham and Tattingstone, came to Gilbert IV Debenham through his inheritance from his mother (not his wife) Elizabeth Holbrook. By his wife (not his mother) Margaret Hastings, Gilbert IV Debenham had, in addition to his one daughter Elizabeth (see above), one son Sir Gilbert Debenham, born c.1440 (he was returned as age 40 in his father's 1481 IPM), died s.p. 1500 ("He was executed or died in prison in 1500, when £1 was paid to Sir William Tyler M.P. (who had his lands), for burying of Sir Gilbert Debenham (Privy Purse Exp. of Henry VII. Excerpta Hist. 124)” [Wedgwood, HOP, p. 266]; married 1468 Katherine (Plumpton) Zouche (c.1435-1470), daughter of Sir William Plumpton of Plumpton Hall and his 1st wife Elizabeth Stapleton, and widow of William, 6th Lord Zouche of Harringworth.
Little Wenham Hall, Suffolk
[*2] The first wife of Sir Thomas Brewse was Joan, daughter of Sir John Calthorpe of Burnham Thorpe (d. by 1417) and Amy Wythe. Wedgwood, in his HOP entry on Sir Thomas Brewse, has him married to second wife Elizabeth Debenham by 1440, but this is impossible chronologically. Complete Peerage Volume 2 (1912), sub Brewes, has them married by 16 October 1456, when Sir Thomas's mother Ela (Stapleton) Brewse made her will and mentioned her son Thomas and Elizabeth his wife. Elizabeth (Debenham) Brewse was heavily involved in the 1477 negotiations for the marriage of her eldest daughter to John Paston, during which she stressed her own advantageous family connection to "my nowncle Hastynges" [i.e., John Hastings of Gressenhall (1412-1477)]. Elizabeth was also instrumental in reversing the attainder of her childless brother Sir Gilbert Debenham. She paid £500 in 1501, which helped her eldest son and heir Robert Brewse recover some of the Debenham lands in 1504 and 1507. By Sir Thomas Brewse, Elizabeth Debenham had four sons: 1) Robert Brewse of Little Wenham Hall (c.1460-1513), ancestor of the subsequent Brewses of Little Wenham; 2) John Brewse of Whittingham Hall in Fressingfield, Suffolk, who had issue; 3) William Brewse (died young after 1479); 4) Edward Brewse, died s.p. before his mother made her will in December 1502; and four daughters: 1) Margery Brewse, the eldest (see above); 2) Muriel Brewse, born c.1465, living December 1502 ("my daughter Audley the wife of John Audley knight" receives one of her mother's best gowns in her mother's will), died by 1507 (her husband re-married in January 1508), married by 1479 (when her father mentions "John Awdeley, son of Umphrey Awdeley, knight, and Meryll his wife" in his will), as his 1st wife, Sir John Audley of Swaffham Market (c.1465-1530, descended from Edward III); 3) Ela Brewse, left 100 marks toward her marriage in her father's July 1479 will, living December 1502 ("my daughter Willoughby" is left one of her mother's best gowns in her mother's will), married Robert Willoughby (whom I cannot identify further); 4) Margaret Brewse, left 100 marks toward her marriage in her father's July 1479 will, died before December 1502 (or she would have received one of her mother's best gowns, like her two sisters above), married, as his 1st wife, Sir Philip Tilney of Shelley Hall (d. 1533), the brother of Agnes, Duchess of Norfolk, and had issue. The most comprehensive pedigree to date of the Brewse family of Little Wenham Hall remains the 1902 one in Frederick Arthur Crisp's Fragmenta Genealogica Volume 8.
Paston impaling Brewse,
from the 1573 Paston pedigree

[*3] By Sir John Paston, Margery Brewse had three sons: 1) Christopher Paston, born August 1478, died young before 1482; 2) Sir William Paston of Paston Hall (see above); 3) Philip Paston of Runham, died s.p. before 1519 (when his wife was re-married to Sir Thomas Clere of Stokesby); married (settlement 29 November 1516), Anne Giggs (buried 4 November 1570 St Andrew Church, Stokesby, Norfolk), dau of Robert Giggs of Sparham (d. 1534) and Alice Topps (d. 1535), and widow of John Blakeney; and three daughters: 1) Elizabeth Paston, died 1539; married 1st William Clere (d.s.p. 17 March 1501), eldest son and heir of Sir Robert Clere of Ormesby House (c.1445-1529) and his 1st wife Anne Hopton; married 2nd, as his 2nd wife, Sir John Fyneux of Herne, Kent (c.1441-1525), Chief Justice of the King's Bench 1495-1525, son of William Fyneux of Swingfield and Alice Monyns, and had issue by her 2nd husband (they are ancestors of the Viscounts Strangford, Katherine Neville, wife of Sir Thomas Lunsford of Lancaster County, Virginia, and Diana, Princess of Wales, among countless others); 2) Philippa Paston, married Andrew Ogard of Emneth (c.1487-1526), son and heir of Sir Henry Ogard of Emneth (1451-1511), and d.s.p.; 3) Dorothy Paston, died s.p. 6 September 1533, buried St Peter & St Paul Church, Upper Hardres, Kent, married, as his 1st wife, Thomas Hardres of Hardres Court (d. 1556), son and heir of James Hardres of Hardres Court and Alice Hill.

[*4] "His [Sir John Paston's] financial embarrassment was doubtless eased by the marriage of his son and heir, William, to Sir Henry Heydon’s daughter Bridget, whose marriage portion was probably 500 marks. The wedding was already in sight when Sir Henry informed John Paston of the conclusion of the dispute with William Paston: ‘How yee and myn ladie, and in what sylk or clooth yee will have these tweyn yong innocentes maried jnne, iff it shuld be purveyed at London to send me word, or ellys at Norwich, as it shall please you and myn ladie ther-affter I shall applie me; for it must bee ordyrd be you in the yong husbondes name.’ 1489 seems the year in which to place the end of the controversy and the marriage, as on 10 February 1489 Margery, in writing to John, refers to ‘my brodyre Heydon’” [Colin Richmond, The Paston Family in the Fifteenth Century: The First Phase (1990)]. By Bridget Heydon, Sir William Paston had five sons and six daughters, and of these, eight had issue.

B2) Thomas, 2nd Lord Monthermer, by 2nd husband (1301-1340) m. Margaret de Braose (c.1303-1349), and had
B3) Margaret, 3rd Lady Monthermer (1329-1395) m. John, 1st Lord Montagu (c.1329-1390), and had
5th Lord Dinham -
see Generation B4
B4) ELEANOR MONTAGU, born c.1364 (assuming she was about age 16 at her marriage), died 1394, buried St Mary Church, Kingskerswell, Devon; married by 3 February 1380, as his 1st wife, JOHN, 5TH LORD DINHAM, born 1359, died 25 December 1428, buried St Mary Church, Kingskerswell, son and heir of John, 4th Lord Dinham (1319-1383) and Muriel Courtenay (d. by 1369), and had [*5]
B5) MURIEL DINHAM, born c.1385 (assuming she was about age 20 at her marriage), died by 1420 ("Hastings was twice married, first to Muriel (who died before 1420), daughter of Sir John Dinham" [Maurice H. Keen, ODNB bio of Sir Edward Hastings]); married (settlement 20 February 1406) Sir EDWARD HASTINGS of Elsing (see A6 above) [*6]

[*5] The evidence that Muriel Dinham, first wife of Sir Edward Hastings, was not the daughter of the 4th Lord Dinham and Muriel Courtenay, as had previously been thought, but was instead the daughter of the 5th Lord Dinham and his first wife Eleanor, was presented by John P. Ravilious in a SocGenMed post made in June 2001. The evidence that the first wife of the 5th Lord Dinham was Eleanor, daughter of John, 1st Lord Montagu and Margaret Monthermer, was presented by John P. Ravilious in a SocGenMed post made in February 2004.

[*6] "Pre-nuptial settlement dated 7 Hen IV [20 Feb 1405/06] at 'Notewill', Devon, between Edward Lord of Hastyngges (1) and John de Dynham, knight (2): Agreement between (1) and (2), that (1) shall marry Muriel (2)'s daughter, and shall enfeoff certain persons at their choice (a lour adieux ellection) with certain lands and tenements, to the value of 100 marks yearly, in 'which Muriel shall be jointured (iungne) during her life, and that she shall be dowered in lands and tenements to the yearly value of 300 marks along with that jointure. For the marriage and jointure, (2) shall pay to (1) 400 marks (100 marks on the day of the marriage, 100 marks the following Michaelmas, and 100 marks yearly at Michaelmas until fully paid), provided that she is so jointured; if not, the payments shall not be made. - A2A, Cornwall Record Office: Arundell of Lanherne and Trerice, AR/37/24" John P. Ravilious in a December 2005 post to SocGenMed.

Since Erasmus Paston is an ancestor to many, including Charles, Prince of Wales, it's good to have his two lines of descent from Edward I sorted out.

Cheers,                                       --------Brad

Monday, November 9, 2015

Father of Gertrude Paston (d. 1605), Wife of Sir William Reade of Osterley Park

Impalement of Gertrude (née Paston) Reade,
from a Paston pedigree drawn up in 1573
Last month, in my post on the Frank Gardner episode of Who Do You Think You Are, I included a line of descent from King Edward I to Dorothy Burdett (1715-1794), wife of Rev. John Rolleston, ancestors of Frank Gardner's mother. I had a question come to me about the 11th generation in that descent - Gertrude Paston, the wife of Sir William Reade of Osterley Park. Here is the descent:

Edward I had a daughter
1) Princess Joan ‘of Acre’ (1272-1307) m. 1) Gilbert de Clare, 6th Earl of Gloucester (1243-1295), and had
2) Lady Margaret de Clare (1293-1342) m. 2) Hugh Audley, Earl of Gloucester (c.1291-1347), and had
3) Lady Margaret Audley (c.1321-1349) m. Ralph, 1st Earl of Stafford (1301-1372), and had
4) Hugh, 2nd Earl of Stafford (1341-1386) m. Lady Philippa Beauchamp (c.1340-bef.1385), and had
5) Lady Margaret Stafford (c.1365-1396) m. Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland (c.1364-1425), and had
6) Lady Margaret Neville (1396-1464) m. Richard, 3rd Lord Scrope of Bolton (1394-1420), and had
7) Henry, 4th Lord Scrope of Bolton (1418-1459) m. Elizabeth Scrope (d. 1504), and had
8) Richard Scrope of Bentley (d. 1485) m. Eleanor Washbourne (d. 1506), and had
9) Eleanor Scrope (c.1476-by 1509) m. Sir Thomas Wyndham of Felbrigg Hall (d. 1522, descended from Edward I), and had
10) Mary Wyndham (c.1508-1596) m. Erasmus Paston, Heir of Paston Hall (by 1508-1540, descended from Edward I), and had
11) Gertrude Paston (c.1539-1605) m. Sir William Reade of Osterley Park (c.1538-1621), and had
[see the original post for the remainder of the descent]

My assignment of Gertrude as the daughter of Mary Wyndham and Erasmus Paston differs from many other sources, which instead make her the granddaughter of that couple, the daughter of their son and heir Sir William Paston (c.1528-1610) and his wife Frances Clere. Per the Paston pedigree in the Harleian Society's Visitation of Norfolk 1563, 1589 and 1613, Erasmus Paston and his wife Mary Wyndham are given only one child, son and heir Sir William Paston. He, in turn, with his wife Frances Clere, is given four sons (Christopher, Wolfstan, John and Thomas) and three daughters (Eleanor m. John Echingham, Frances m. Thomas le Gros, and Gertrude m. Sir William Reade).

The above parentage of Gertrude Paston agrees with the Reade pedigree in Middlesex Pedigrees, which was made by the same Richard Mundy, also about the year 1620 (Bridget Stanhope, the youngest daughter of Sir Michael Stanhope and Anne Reade, is shown unmarried. She was born in 1614 and married the 1st Earl of Desmond in 1630). It says that Sir William Reade's wife was "Gertrud d. of Sr William Paston of Norff."
Sir William Paston (c.1528-1610)

Using the above Reade pedigree from Middlesex Pedigrees as its source, the 1981 History of Parliament (HOP) biography of Thomas Reade, the elder son of Sir William Reade and Gertrude Paston, states that Gertrude was the daughter of Sir William Paston of Norfolk.

It's worthwhile to remember that these particular volumes of the Harleian Society series are not transcriptions of the original Norfolk visitations enrolled by the heralds in those three years (1563, 1589 and 1613), or in Middlesex in 1620, but rather a combination of pedigrees made by Richard Mundy, a draughtsman employed by the College of Arms, to use for his own reference as he accompanied the heralds on their visitations. Mundy never imagined these working notes of his would be published two-and-a-half centuries later, and we cannot know today how accurate he was trying to be when it came to genealogical details (as opposed to heraldry, which was the focus of his employment). This means that pedigrees made by Mundy have an even stronger need for verification through chronology than the original visitation pedigrees made by the herald with the family representatives.

And when chronology is applied to Gertrude (Paston) Reade, difficulties arise with the parentage Mundy has assigned her. Thomas Reade was first returned to Parliament in 1589. Presumably he would have to have been of age, so born by 1568, but his HOP bio states that he was probably returned due to the influence of the powerful Cecils, his wife's family, so the possibility that he was a little younger, maybe age 19 or 20, cannot be ruled out. He couldn't have been born any later than 1570, however, as he entered St John College, Cambridge in 1583. Thomas Reade married Lady Mildred Cecil on 28 February 1586 at St Margaret Church, Westminster, and this agrees with a birthdate for him of no later than 1570. Mildred was born 11 June 1569.

Extracts from the earliest parish register of St Margaret Church in Paston, Norfolk were published in 1863 in The East Anglian on pp. 3-4, and the baptism and marriage entries are included in the International Genealogy Index (IGI). Luckily the parish register provides us specific dates for some members of the Paston family.

Sir William Paston and Frances Clere were married on 5 May 1551 at St Margaret Church, Paston, Norfolk. They had a daughter Anne baptized there on 16 July 1553, and their eldest son and heir Christopher Paston was baptized there on 18 June 1554.
St Margaret Church, Paston, Norfolk
To have been a daughter of Sir William Paston and Frances Clere, and mother of a son Thomas Reade entering Cambridge in 1583, married in 1586, and M.P. in 1589, Gertrude (Paston) Reade would have to have been the first child born to the couple, in 1552. Even then, that is stretching it. The Anne Paston born in 1553 was married in 1572 at age 19, and Christopher Paston born in 1554 was married in 1577. There's no reason to think a daughter born in 1552 would have been married in 1568/9 (and that's assuming Thomas Reade was born as late as 1570) at age 16/17. Plus, there's no record of a daughter Gertrude baptized at Paston in 1552 (though there's always a possibility, however unlikely, that she could have been born elsewhere).

In 1675, herald Francis Sandford (then Rogue Dragon Pursuivant) wrote a large manuscript on the Paston family, which was published in Norfolk Archaeology in 1855 as 'Account of a MS. Genealogy of the Paston Family, in the Possession of His Grace the Duke of Newcastle'. On p. 47, Sandford assigns Sir William Paston and Frances Clere three children, sons Christopher and Wolfstan, and daughter Anne, wife of Sir George Chaworth. This matches perfectly with the entries in the Paston parish register. Sandford assigns to Erasmus Paston and Mary Wyndham three sons (Sir William, Thomas and Edmund) and three daughters (Eleanor or Anne, m. Edward Echingham, Frances m. Thomas Le Gros, and Gertrude m. Sir William Reade).

Erasmus Paston, from his monument in St Margaret Church, Paston
[photo by jmc4 - Church Explorer]
Sandford's account of the children of Erasmus Paston at least matches better than that of Mundy, to the monument inscription of Erasmus Paston in St Margaret Church, Paston, which states that he died on 13 November 1538 and had 3 sons and 9 daughters:

"Here Erasmus Paston and Marye his Wiffe enclosed are in Clay,
Whiche is the Restinge Place of Eache untill the latter days,
Of Sonnes thre and Daughters nyne the Lorde them parents made,
Ere crewell Death did work his crewell spite or fykell lyff did fade"
[My thanks to Derek Howard for the above transcription and link]

According to the Paston parish register, Erasmus Paston was buried on 6 November 1540, so his 13 November 1538 date of death on his monument inscription (M.I.) is off by a week and two years. But if the nine daughters mentioned on the M.I. is the correct number, which seems very likely since Erasmus's widow Mary (Wyndham) Paston commissioned it, Erasmus had even more daughters than the three Sandford assigned him. This could explain the entry in the Paston parish register of "Mrs. Ellen Paston" married to "Wyllm Clifton" on 8 February 1553/4. This daughter and marriage do not appear in Richard Mundy's 1620 Paston pedigree, nor in the 1675 one of Francis Sandford. It works well chronologically for Ellen (Paston) Clifton to have been a daughter of Erasmus and Mary (Wyndham) Paston.

Erasmus Paston has a 1982 biography in History of Parliament, which states he had three sons and three daughters, citing the above 1620 Paston pedigree by Richard Mundy as one of its sources (though that pedigree only gives Erasmus one child, son and heir Sir William), as well as "Vis. Norf. (Norf. Arch.), 47-48", which I haven't seen and cannot find online.

Given the chronological evidence, I favoured the assignment that Sandford made in 1675 over the notes Richard Mundy used in 1620, and thus in my database Gertrude, wife of Sir William Reade, is the daughter of Erasmus Paston and Mary Wyndham. Whether she was their daughter or their granddaughter doesn't affect her descent from Edward I through the baronial Scrope family, but it would be nice to know for accuracy's sake, which Paston, father or son, fathered her.

Very happily, the Norfolk Record Office, in conjunction with the Paston Heritage Society, held, from October 2013 through January 2014, an exhibition entitled The Pastons and the Pursuit of Power. Included in that exhibition was a Paston pedigree drawn up in 1573 by Robert Cooke, Clarenceux King of Arms. It clearly shows that Gertrude, wife of Sir William Reade of Osterley Park - as well as her sisters Eleanor, wife of Edward Echingham of Dunbrody Abbey (d. 1582, descended from Edward I), and Frances, wife of Thomas Le Gros of Crostwight Hall (d. 1622) - were indeed the daughters of Erasmus Paston and Mary Wyndham, and that Sir William Paston (c.1528-1610) was their brother, not their father.

This is a good example of how the pedigrees which originated from Richard Mundy's manuscripts, published by the Harleian Society, need to be used genealogically only as a guiding outline, and that the relationships within them need to be verified through other sources.

Cheers,                                     ----Brad

Sunday, November 8, 2015

Edward III Descent for Katherine (née Watts), Countess of Dunmore (1666-1711)

One of the ancestors of Susan Inge, the first wife of George Moore of Appleby Hall, was Katherine Watts, the wife of Charles Murray, 1st Earl of Dunmore. Her descent from Edward III does not appear in any of the peerage works.
Katherine (née Watts),
Countess of Dunmore

The Watts family can be traced back to the mid-16th century and one Robert Watts of Buntingford, a small market town in Hertfordshire. His son John Watts, born about 1550, was apprenticed to the leading London clothworker James Hawes, and married his master's daughter Margaret in about 1574, the year that Hawes served as Lord Mayor of London. His marriage brought Watts directly into the ranks of the merchant aristocracy of the City. As his bio in ODNB states, privateering became Watts's main business interest throughout the 1580s and 1590s, and the renown that he earned in it led the Spanish Ambassador to describe him in 1607 as, "the greatest Pirate that has ever been in this Kingdom." Watts, along with other Aldermen of London, was knighted by James I in 1603, and served a term as Lord Mayor of London in 1606-07, in which capacity he entertained the king lavishly in June 1607. He bought the manor of Mardocks in the parish of Ware, in his home county of Hertfordshire, and made it his country seat. He survived his wife Margaret, and at his death in September 1616, he left a large family of six sons and four daughters.

The most thorough account of the family of Sir John Watts remains that of genealogist George Edward Cokayne, Clarenceux King of Arms 1894-1911, best remembered today as the author of the original edition of Complete Peerage. Cokayne covered Sir John Watts in his 1891 article 'Lord Mayors and Sheriffs, temp. James I' for The London and Middlesex Notebook. In it, he states on p. 103 that Sir John Watts's third son was "Richard Watts, who inherited lands at Munden, Herts. He m. Agnes, da. of Richard Mackworth, of Betton, Salop, by Dorothy, da. of Laurence Cranage, of Cotton, co. Chester. He was bur. 15 May, 1635, at St Barth. the less."
Watts of Garnons Coat of Arms
(Argent, 2 bars, azure, in chief 3 pellets,
differenced with a star)

The "lands at Munden" was actually the manor of Garnons, or Henry-At-Danes, in the parish of Great Munden. Per VCH Hertford Vol. 3 (1912), Sir John Watts had purchased the manor from William Hamond "in about 1600 or later." Though the manor was held by Sir John at his death in 1616, the family clearly gave it, as a country seat, to the third son Richard Watts, a London merchant like his father and eldest brother, Sir John Watts II, who had inherited the chief seat of Mardocks in Ware.

Agnes Mackworth, the wife of Richard Watts of Garnons in Great Munden (d. 1635), appears in most of the genealogy works specializing in royal descents of New World immigrants, including Plantagenet Ancestry, in all of its editions. This is because her second husband, William Crowne (d. 1683), a herald (Rouge Dragon) at the College of Arms, and officer for the Parliamentarian side in the English Civil War, immigrated to Massachusetts in 1657. Though he returned to England after the Restoration in 1660, he only stayed a couple years, going back to Massachusetts in 1662 and remaining in New England until his death in Boston in 1682/3 (will dated 24 December 1682, proved 28 February 1683). Agnes never set foot in the New World. Though William Crowne was ordered by the General Court of Massachusetts in 1674 to return to his wife in England or pay a £20 fine, he must have chosen the fine. This is the last Agnes (Mackworth) (Watts) Crowne appears in record, and her date and place of death has not been uncovered. One of her three sons by her second husband was the playwright John Crowne (1641-1712), who has a ODNB bio. In the 2011 Edition of Plantagenet Ancestry, Agnes is on pp. 488-489, where it's stated that she "married (1st) before 1632 RICHARD WATTS, of Epping, Essex, younger son of John Watts, Knt., Clothworker, Mayor of London, 1606-7, by Margaret, daughter of James Hawes, Knt. They had one son, Humphrey." This isn't complete.

"Richard Watts and Annis Mackworth" were married by licence on 9 May 1626 at St Dunstan in the West, London (parish register accessed through

John Brandon, a genealogist and participant in the SocGenMed newsgroup, made a post in March 2008, pointing out the 1634 Watts pedigree in the Visitation of London, where the informant was Agnes's first husband Richard Watts himself. He and Agnes had the following four children "Richard Watts=eldest sonne, 2 George, 3 Humphry and Dorothy." Brandon also pointed out the baptisms at Epping, Essex, of the three sons, Richard Watts (on 3 June 1630), George Watts (on 1 October 1631), and Humphrey Watts (on 28 November 1632).

Per the ODNB bio of Charles Murray, 1st Earl of Dunmore: "On 6 December 1682 he [Dunmore] married in London (a love match) Catherine (d. 1710), daughter of Richard Watts of Great Munden, Hertfordshire, and granddaughter of the courtier Major-General Robert Worden." On 31 December 1663, "Richard Watts, of Gray's Inn, Esq., Bachelor, 33, & Katherine Werden, of St Bartholomew the Great, London, Spr, 20, dau. of Robert Werden, of the City of Chester, Esq., who consents" received license to marry at either St Martin in the Fields or St James Clerkenwell. Richard Watts's age of 33 in December 1663 matches perfectly to the baptism of Richard, son of Richard Watts and Agnes Mackworth, in June 1630. On 7 December 1647, Richard Watts, "son and heir of Richard W., of Gt. Munden, Herts, Esq." was admitted to Gray's Inn. This conclusively identifies the Richard Watts of Gray's Inn as the son of Richard Watts of Garnons in Great Munden (d. 1635) and his wife Agnes Mackworth.
Gray's Inn, London
"Katharine Wats", daughter of "Richard and Katharine Wats," was baptized 7 September 1666 at St Andrew Church, Hertford. "Richard Watts Esq. from M.[erchant?] Taylor at grays inn" was buried 14 December 1666 at St Andrew Holborn, London (parish register accessed through I haven't yet uncovered what became of his wife Katherine (née Werden) Watts. Katherine Watts inherited the manor of Garnons, and brought it to the Murrays through her marriage. Her husband conveyed it in 1709 to Katherine's uncle Sir John Werden, so presumably Katherine's mother had died by then. Per VCH Hertford, there is no further record of the manor of Garnons after 1786. However, a deed of 1780 in the National Archives mentions a "messuage [in Great Munden] called Martyrs otherwise Watts Hall otherwise High Trees." Given that High Trees was once known as Watts Hall, it's very likely that it was High Trees Farm that was once the manor house of the Watts family in Great Munden.

Through her paternal grandmother Agnes Mackworth, Katherine (née Watts), Countess of Dunmore, has a 14-generation descent from Edward III, as so.

Edward III had a 2nd son
Lionel of Antwerp - see
Generation 1
1) Lionel of Antwerp, 1st Duke of Clarence (1338-1368) m. 1) Lady Elizabeth de Burgh (1332-1363, descended from Edward I), and had
2) Lady Philippa Plantagenet of Clarence (1355-1377) m. Edmund Mortimer, 3rd Earl of March (1352-1381), and had
3) Lady Elizabeth Mortimer (1371-1417) m. 1) Sir Henry 'Hotspur' Percy (1364-1403), and had
4) Lady Elizabeth Percy (c.1395-1437) m. 1) John, 7th Lord Clifford (1388-1422, descended from Edward I), and had
5) Thomas, 8th Lord Clifford (1414-1455) m. Joan Dacre (c.1417-c.1452, descended from Edward I), and had
6) Maud Clifford (b. c.1436) m. 2) Sir Edmund Sutton, Heir of Dudley Castle (c.1430-1482), and had
7) Dorothy Dudley (c.1465-1517) m. Richard Wrottesley of Wrottesley Hall (1457-1521), and had
8) Walter Wrottesley of Wrottesley Hall (d. 1563) m. Isabel Harcourt, and had
Dorothy (née Dudley) Wrottesley
- see Generation 7
9) Eleanor Wrottesley (d. 1596) m. Richard Lee of Langley (d. 1591, descended from Edward I), and had
10) Dorothy Lee (b. c.1550) m. Thomas Mackworth of Betton Grange (c.1546-1587), and had
11) Richard Mackworth of Betton Grange (c.1572-1618) m. Dorothy Cranage (descended from Edward I), and had
12) Agnes Mackworth (b. c.1601)[*1] m. 1) Richard Watts of Garnons (d. 1635), and had
13) Richard Watts of Garnons & Gray's Inn (1630-1666) m. Katherine Werden (b. c.1643), and had
14) Katherine Watts (1666-1710/11) m. Charles Murray, 1st Earl of Dunmore (1661-1710, descended from Henry VII)

[*1] Agnes's sister Margaret Mackworth was baptized 21 July 1605 at St Julian Church, Stapleton, Shropshire, and married at age 26 on 3 October 1631 St Mary Church, Acton Burnell, Shropshire, William Jukes of Buttington Hall, in Montgomeryshire, Wales (baptized 1 November 1601 All Saints Church, Worthen, Shropshire, descended from Edward I). Agnes was married in 1626, five years before Margaret, so she was no doubt older than Margaret, and if she was about age 25 when married, then born about 1601. Her parents were married in 1600. Agnes's niece Margaret Jukes, daughter of William Jukes and Margaret Mackworth, married 2ndly, the herald and genealogist Francis Sandford (1630-1694).

Cheers,                      -------Brad